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Wednesday, March 11, 2015

Lenny Lamb vs Tula Comparison

Soft Structured Carrier Comparison:
Tula vs Lenny Lamb
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I joined the babywearing community by buying my first Moby wrap in 2013 when R1 was born.  My mom insisted I get one of those carriers that I could breastfeed in. So really, I can thank my mother for opening me up to a world I didn't know existed, a community of wonderful mamas who would become my tribe, and to the addicting nature that is wrapping.  

Two or three stretchy wraps, a few ring slings, more than a handful of woven wraps, and we have arrived at toddler-hood and soft structured carriers.  Our first was a Lillebaby and that was great for the first few years while R1 was growing, but now, we've decided he needed something bigger and more supportive, as well as new for R2. I also wanted to try new things, including a woven converted SSC. 
  
During the time I was researching SSC's, I did not find a great review with measurements and photos comparing just the Lenny Lamb and Tula carriers. There are plenty that compare Tula to Kinderpack, Ergo, Boba, and Beco, but not to Lenny Lamb. Thus, the following review was born. 


Tula vs Lenny Lamb (LL)
For the purpose of this review I'm going to stick to comparing just the soft structured standard size Tula canvas carrier and the baby size woven converted Lenny Lamb.  We will work from the top of the carrier down to the bottom.  I will reference some measurements in this post, but for all the measurements, please see the chart at the end.

The Basics:
Let's start with the Tula. It's a well known brand. Depending on the print you want, it can be accessible (some online shops receive special prints, but you can get some of the common ones on the Tula site or Amazon).  Some sites will have Tula carriers on sale at 10% off, but mostly they are $149 (standard size) or $169 (toddler size). Almost all sites offer free shipping.
The basics:  I purchased the Willow canvas print which comes with a feather print on the canvas and dark grey shoulder straps, hood, and waist.  I have read some descriptions stating the canvas feels better when worn in, but I don't have a preference or the experience to state either way. 

 I do not know when Lenny Lamb began making soft structured carriers. I have only just discovered them as an alternative to the more expensive woven converted ssc's that are custom made or in limited supply (Tula). A Lenny Lamb "baby" carrier can be purchased for as little as $140 (prices go up from here depending on woven used and size).  I purchased a brown/beige Bubo owls pattern in a baby size. 

Notable Note: READ THIS ONE! The Tula is designed for children starting at 15 POUNDS unless you have the infant insert!  So if your lo is like mine and at 4 months old is not yet 15 lbs you cannot use a Tula without their infant insert.  The Tula clearly has a wider seat so if your LO has short legs, I would recommend the insert (or many people will suggest using a towel under their bottom).
Not that it makes a huge difference but, the suggested minimum weight for the LL carrier is 14 lbs. At 4 months old and just over 14 lbs our lo fit perfectly.  If R2 had been any smaller I would have had to roll up a blanket to put under their bottom.  In general, the Tula allows for too much wiggle room for R2 so I'm sticking to the LL for now.  (Although, I have used the standard size Tula with R1 and R1 sits in it comfortably.)

           (R2 in the Tula. Baby's legs were just an inch or two too short to be worn comfortably.)

 Hood:
The Tula has a flat hood that can be snapped on and off. This is incredibly handy if you want to customize your carrier. You can make or purchase a hoodie hood (one that can easily cover your child's head without cinching the elastic) in a number of patterns to colaborate with or match your Tula. In contrast, Lenny Lamb has an attached hoodie hood. There is no replacing this hood as it is sewn into the body of the carrier. The hood is rather tall (in my opinion) so your child has plenty of head room. 
Both hoods come with sewn in elastic that will cinch the hood smaller and that same elastic can be put under and plastic hook to secure it in place. This comes in handy for sleeping babes. 

Body:
There is a large contrast in body shape that is apparent by just looking at the two carriers, without comparing measurements. The Tula has a more square shape on the sides and a top that contours up slightly at the top to accomodate for a child's head, below the hood.  The Lenny Lamb carrier is two inches shorter across in the middle of the panel (where the shoulder straps attach to the main body). It is also narrower at the top by 3 inches. Obviously this gives a child less wiggle room than a Tula but if your child is skinny or narrow this might not be an issue. For smaller children (up to 12 months) this may be more comfortable if they want feel the tight, closeness to their parent (or whoever is doing the carrying).  You'll see in the measurements section the Lenny Lamb SSC is taller on the outside of the panel than in the middle. This is due to the carrier being cut in such a way that the shoulder straps come up and out rather than just out the top. 

                                                           (LL on top, Tula on bottom)

Notable note:  Lenny Lamb has included an adjustable buckle on the end of the shoulder strap.  This piece connects to the body of the carrier.  The bonus to this- when carrying baby on your front, the straps can be crossed on the carrier's back which is more comfortable and can provide additional support.  You'd think that particular buckle would rub against your skin, but Lenny has you covered as they placed a piece of fabric under the buckle to keep it away from your rib cage.  This buckle also gives you an additional 7 inches of webbing below the buckle which allows for adjustments.
This photo shows the top and bottom of the straps. The buckle is the bottom of the strap and can be crossed in back as well as adjusted from both sides. The top webbing can also be adjusted.
                                                      (Top and bottom of LL straps)
                                                      (Fabric under buckle and webbing LL)
                                                            (No added fabric under webbing, Tula)

The woven fabric used by LL is soft out of the bag and does not require breaking in, but I can only report on the owl print. 

Straps:
There are a few minor differences to note in the straps.  The Tula straps curve slightly toward the body at the bottom whereas LL's straps are straight all the way down. I haven't noticed a large difference when actually wearing the carriers.  
There is a difference in the AMOUNT of padding in the straps.  Tula gives 1 inch of padding compared to LL who only has 1/2 inch. I cannot say if the padding in one carrier is more dense than the other. New, both straps are comfortable, but if you like a puffy strap, Tula is the better choice. 
One of the larger differences are the buckles that LL has included on the straps (see notable note above) as well as the 3 adjustment areas on the straps (top of shoulder, bottom of strap, and top of buckle. These three areas allow you to find a fit that is just right for each person, but it can take some time to figure that out. Tula allows for adjustments at the top of the shoulder and bottom of the straps and does not have any buckles. 

Both carriers have a chest clip, although LL has given an additional 3 inches of room to adjust the strap. 

                                          (Top LL, bottom Tula)


                                         (Top LL, bottom Tula)

Waist Belt and Support:
There is a clear difference between the carriers in the waist belt.  Tula uses a thick padded foam at the bottom of their carrier. This thick dense foam helps to support baby and keep the carrier comfortable.  The LL carrier's waist is made of woven material and does not contain a thick foam, but rather some sort of stuffing and sewing to create the waist support.  I need to do more research and long term wearing to discuss if these different belts make a huge difference in the comfort of the carrier.  
*UPDATE: After several months of using the LL carrier for R2 I have noticed by back beginning to hurt after wearing her for long periods of time. I have had back problems for years so I'm sure this is a factor.  On the other hand, I do not notice the issue when carrying with the Tula. This is a very personal opinion that will differ from person to person and possibly child to child. I'm not in any way saying that Tula has better support, but for my own personal body I do prefer it as it supports in a way that does not bother my back. 

Notable Note: 
1.)The Tula waist maintains the same height throughout the waist and lays flat while LL has a taller waist in the middle (5.5 inches) and is shorter at the ends (3.5 inches) and curves upward.
2.) The buckle on the LL waist belt has an extra button that must be pressed down while the clips are being pressed inward. This is an extra security measure so that the belt cannot come undone easily.
 
Both the Tula and LL waist buckle on the side, but the LL buckles can be adjusted from both ends.

                                          (Top LL, bottom Tula)

Both carriers are of good quality. They made in such a way to be comfortable and durable. They can be used for many years. There are clearly advantages and disadvantages to each, but most of those are dependent on the owners/chooser's personal preferences. I hope this comparison has helped you compare the carriers in a way that is relevant to you and contains the information you were looking for.  Thank you for reading. Happy babywearing!


Measurement Chart



TULA Lenny Lamb
Top Panel 17 Inches 14 Inches
Mid Panel (where shoulder straps come to main panel) 15 Inches 13 Inches
Bottom Panel (Including legs out padding) 13.5 Inches  13 Inches
Panel Height at middle (with seat included) 15 Inches 15 Inches
Panel Height at far side 11.5 Inches 14 Inches
Waist Band Height 5.5 Inches 5.5 at middle, 3.5 at end where buckle is located.
Waist Band Length 27 Inches 27-28 Inches (the waist forms up slightly on each end)
Waist Band additional Webbing 29 Inches 26 Inches at long end, 5 Inches on short end
Straps Length (padding only) 21 Inches 21 Inches
Straps Width (padding only) 3 Inches 3 Inches
Straps extra length of adjustable webbing 27 Inches 13 inches at bottom of strap, 7 inches below buckle
Adjustable webbing at top of shoulder strap 3 Inches 6 Inches
Adjustable length of chest strap 7 Inches 10 Inches
Hood 9x9 Hoodie approx 10x8 not including actual hood
















 

34 comments:

  1. Thanks you! I have been looking for a review that compared these two! Just curious, if u had to chose one or the other, which would it be?

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    1. Lenny Lamb for a smaller baby. I love that there was no infant insert needed and that it was soft and comfortable right away for both of us. But for a larger have your child I prefer Tula for its back support.

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  2. Do you have a preference to either carrier?

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    1. Lenny Lamb for a smaller baby. I love that there was no infant insert needed and that it was soft and comfortable right away for both of us. But for a larger have your child I prefer Tula for its back support.

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  4. What do you mean by smaller babies? Weight or height? I have a skinny tall baby haha

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    1. I would recommend going by leg length and weight. Both of my kids have shorter legs so this carrier was great for them. I loved it best for my infant because I could use it around 4 months without any infant insert it blanket. It took us a little longer to get there with my Tula. I did have a Toddler Lenny Lamb but I found it didn't have enough support for my back (I have lower back pain) in combination with my 28 lb toddler. Lenny Lamb has a high pannel so I loved it for my kids since they have long torsos.

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    2. I would recommend going by leg length and weight. Both of my kids have shorter legs so this carrier was great for them. I loved it best for my infant because I could use it around 4 months without any infant insert it blanket. It took us a little longer to get there with my Tula. I did have a Toddler Lenny Lamb but I found it didn't have enough support for my back (I have lower back pain) in combination with my 28 lb toddler. Lenny Lamb has a high pannel so I loved it for my kids since they have long torsos.

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  6. So I have both a Lenny Lamb and a Tula, but I cannot figure out what to do with the hood on the LL when I'm not using it. That is unless I want to roll it down as additional neck support or want to lay it inside of the body of the carrier. What is the recommendation to do with the hood when not in use?

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    1. I left it down or rolled it up. I like that it is a continuation of the woven material so I didn't mind letting it hang out.

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  7. Thanks! Loved this review but still have a question: If you were to tighten the shoulder straps to their tightest setting (say for your 12yr old to wear her sister for example), which of the two would be the tightest/smallest, LL or Tula?
    I had the chance to try Tulas both standard and toddler but the toddler size straps were too big/long for me even on their smallest setting. THe standard was better to adjust since the panel isn't as wide. The prob is that my DD won't fit in the standard tula for long because of height and leg length. I want to try a Lenny but am not sure if i will have the same straps issue.

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    1. If you pulled the straps tight on each carrier it would leave you with 21 inches of shoulder strap. That measured the same on each carrier.

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  8. Thanks for this! It's very informative! Have you noticed if one is cooler to wear? We're going to Thailand for a trip soon and just wondering if the canvas or woven is better in hot temperatures?

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    1. I wore both while in Florida and was pretty comfortable with each of them in the early morning or afternoon when the sun was low. That being said they were both hot regardless. If someone came out with a linen ssc that would be great.

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    2. Soul Slings now do a linen full buckle carrier. I haven't tried it but it looks very similar to the Lenny Lamb in terms of fabric and minimal padding.

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  10. Can you tell me anything about the comfort of the part that comes under your arm while wearing? I'm petite and I just got a Tula and the fabric/buckle under my arm drives me nuts. Is the Lenny Lamb any different while wearing? It looks like it wouldn't have as much to rub on me so I'm thinking it would be more comfortable...

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    1. Since Tula doesn't have aa clip under the arm I find the straps comfortable and they do not bother me. Lenny Lamb is a woven ssc so the fabric is very soft all over. I found the fabric to be very comfortable against my skin.

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  11. Thank you for this! I'm looking into buying a LL SSC right now (cause I need more carriers like I need a hole in the head) and this was really helpful!

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    1. I think you can get an extender for the waist for the Tula but not sure about the Lenny Lamb. Depends on your size but the straps on both are quite long.

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  13. Which do you think is better for big babies? My son is off the charts for height and up in the 90th for weight...

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    1. I would say it depends on the age of your child. When my youngest was little I preferred the Lenny lamb. She is in the 97th percentile for height. As both of my kids got older I prefer the tula but only because I have had lower back problems and I found Tula supported them better. Neither of them has been particularly heavy as far as weight goes. I hope that answers your question. If your child is a little bit older and has long legs you could go with a Tula, but if they have shorter legs and a long torso you could go with Lenny lamb. If you have back problems and need something more supportive I'd suggest Tula. But that's only my personal experience. I hope that helps

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  14. Hi . Great review thanks
    Just wondered if you had an idea of which is better to carry a two year old on your back ... I find that with my Connecta it hurts across my tummy so looking at either a LL or Tula
    Thank you x

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    1. First of all, I have minor lower back pain that has bothered me for years (it comes and goes). So what works best for me might not be the case for the next person.

      I did own a toddler size Lenny Lamb. It was beautiful, soft, and very comfortable (not to mention I loved having a hoodie hood). However, I did find that it bothered my back after an hour or so. I do have 2 canvas toddler Tulas and find that the waist support is better for me, therefore making long carrying trips more feasible.

      My mother also carries all her grandkids and would recommend the Tula or Beco (she has a Beco at her house).

      I hope this helps!

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  15. WOW! Thank you for the detailed review on both carriers! I have been looking to find one that is as comprehensive as this one and you have done your job in helping me to decide which one will be better for me! Thank you again!

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  16. i am 4'11 and 115 lbs..im carrying a 11 month old about 22lbs and 29inches maybe 30 inches long..
    tula or lenny? lenny toddler or baby?
    I have a lillebaby and the waist part keeps sliding down and its not the most comfortable

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    1. I do not claim to be an expert on baby carriers. I've tried many and by trial and error figured out what I like. I did have a Lillebaby complete at one point so I can understand where you are coming from. Have you tried different placement of the waist? Some people find it more comfortable higher up (toward the belly) and it should be tight, not uncomfortable but tight. If that doesn't solve the problem here are my thoughts:
      If you go with a Lenny Lamb you may find that you have to place the waist higher up to accommodate for the longer panel (the part on baby's back). I found the LL was great for my son and daughter who have long torsos. However, due to back problems I found the Tula most comfortable for myself.

      Most people find they can use a standard/baby Tula or Lenny Lamb for a long time before having to switch to a toddler. You don't want your child to drown in a toddler carrier. That being said, my daughter is about 31 inches and I have put her in our toddler Tula. I have to roll a blanket up and put it under her butt if we are going on a long walk because her legs are about 1/2 inch too short to be knee to knee. She prefers the larger panel of the toddler Tula rather than the standard (she likes to pull her arms in and put her head down while tired). At the same time, my son (3 years old, 75% for height) still fits in a standard Tula. I have found the waist of the Tula most supportive for my toddler and my back. I hope this helps. I would look for a babywearing group in your area. Many have carriers available to try out or members who are willing let you try their carriers. Let me know if you have additional questions.

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  17. Hi from Canada... bit of an oddball question, but do you still have your LL? I found your blog while searching for the Bubo Owl pattern carrier, exactly like yours. We live in Vancouver BC and my son is a chaplain with the Salvation Army in the downtown eastside. They had a LL owl carrier, and adored it. They have a one year old and a baby due next month. Recently on a trip to the clinic for mamma's gestational diabetes checkup the LL was lost. 'Borrowed' or stolen, no one can say, but the result is a devastated mamma with no money to buy a new one- plus the fact she loved the owls SO much. SO, Grammy is trying to hunt one up for her...would love to know where you got yours and if you have ever seen them around anywhere. Many thanks!!

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    1. I don't have it anymore but I bought it from 5mr.com (5 minute recess). I have seen them occasionally on the Facebook page 'the baby wearing swap'. It also comes in a beautiful red color.

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  18. I have a 4 month old and am in the odd size in between my stretchy wrap and wearing my ergo without an insert. So I am wanting go buy a ssc that is suitable for a 4.5 month old and am deciding between the lillebaby complete and the lenny lamb ergonomic. I understand all the differences between them, but in your experience, which do you prefer for this age?

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    1. It really comes down to personal preference. I loved my Lenny when my kids were small because it was narrower than the Tula and seemed to fit better. It was also so soft. As they got bigger I liked the Tula because I have some lower back pain and I seemed to get better support from it.

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  19. Thank you so much for taking the time to write this blog! Very informative! :)

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